Saturday, November 14, 2009

Never vanquished

Should you ask people around you what truth is, you will mostly be told that it depends on your conception of truth. If you insist and point out that what exists or not is entirely oblivious to any opinion one may have of it as far as being or not being, you will, without more ado, be singled out as sectarian. You will be told that you are trying to impose your ideas, exactly as if reality was an idea. Now then, whether or not you seek to impose what you think neither affects error nor truth, and consequently it is well and truly postulated that reality does not exist outside the idea you make of it. Not to consent to the relativity of reality constitutes in many places a form of raging intolerance. To accept that each and everyone can express his opinion is one thing, something important, for sure, but on the other hand truth also deserves to be upheld. :)
Posted by Being and Quirkiness at 11:38 AM
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  1. CathyNovember 14, 2009 at 1:50 PM

    Having a "conception" of what truth is seems to me more of a justification for lying. The truth is the truth is the truth; it's a rather black and white thing, such as did you go to work today, or did you not. If you're talking about "truth" in a more arbitrary way, like knowing the "truth" about "God," well, that really isn't a truth at all...it's a belief.

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  2. AngelshairNovember 14, 2009 at 2:20 PM

    I think it depends on "levels" of truth.
    If I ask my son if he has done his homework, and he says yes when he didn't, he does not says the truth.
    So for very factual realities, the truth exists and is simple to define.
    But when it comes to metaphysical concepts, the truth is harder to define,.....but still need to be hupheld :-).

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  3. Being and QuirkinessNovember 15, 2009 at 1:29 PM

    Hello Cathy and Angelshair,

    Thanks for your comments

    In first philosophy (metaphysics), truth is convertible to being. All that exists, is true.

    In corrolary, substance (the answer to what is Being as Being?) is the source of all determinations and receives no attributes. It isn't blue nor red, to the left nor to the right, concrete nor abstact. Substance can only be induced. One can only associate "transcendentals" to Being, which are like synonyms of Being (Truth, Good, One etc.). In short :P

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  4. nothingprofoundNovember 16, 2009 at 7:04 AM

    "What is does not depend on us, we depend on it." John Cage

    I think that's what you're saying. The world is what it is, not what we think it is.

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  5. Being and QuirkinessNovember 16, 2009 at 9:32 AM

    Indeed NP! :) Most people don't think that way though :)

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  6. COUNT SNEAKYNovember 21, 2009 at 3:23 PM

    If, however, I am born blind, the world of color doesn't exist for me no matter what I think. If I am born without the ability to hear sound, it is not there for me, no matter what I think. Things exist because I think and I think because I exist in one fashion or another. "The world as it is, is not the world it used to be, when it was!" as Krazy Kat used to say.

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  7. Being and QuirkinessNovember 22, 2009 at 2:37 PM

    Count,
    At the end of the day, things exist outside of my perspective... reminds me of the tree falling in the forest... does it make a sound? Yes, but if no one is around to hear it, the sound only exists in Potency (vs to exist in Act) - an Aristolian distinction.

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  8. AnonymousDecember 6, 2009 at 5:49 AM

    I agree that the world is what it is, and that all things that exist are true; yet, I think that we as individuals are limited (by our perceptions) in our ability to discern the reality of existence. Therefore, how do I know that what I know is true (or really exists)?

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